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Wednesday, December 06, 2006

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pennyauctions

nice article and great space,thanks for sharing this with all of us.

Comedian

I think she's (he's) HILARIOUS! Lighten up! It's not racist.. You do not understand humor, apparently. Humor and comedians make fun of EVERYONE - white, black, Asian, British, Royals, Democrats, Republicans, etc. etc. etc. etc... Get a new cause, and let comedians do their acts.

New Orleans Fruit

Jasmyne is a racist-no ands, ifs or buts about it!!!!

drss marie moogan

Hey at typepad. I am here to type some personal probably but still should be related to you and to everyday life in america>
i send you here my free website for songs and need your help.
also i must add our needs to help our loved america help pass new laws to help stop wars for america and also to help banks losses for america. For past 50years we have watched helping others worldwide and also giving our
billions to others worldwide with still zero billions for us/builders of america?
America had given 27 billions to Russia with no return and not demand at all, just free donation from us builders of america who had received not as yet: zero billions?
this was given by the past clintons?
also america had spent for middle east wars
more than US$1,000,000,000,000MORE
ONTO WASTED, DEATHFUL WARS? AND I NOW BELIEVE THAT ALL OF US MUST COME TOGEHTER WITH ALL COLORS, ALL SKINS, ALL RACES, ALL NATIONS SINCE WARS WILL NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANY OF THESE DIFFERENCES COLORS, SKINS, RACES, NATIONS? WE SHOULD COME TOGETHER TO REALLY, STRONGLY COMPLAIN TO THE OUR US GOVERNMENT AGAINST WARS CONSTANT FOR OUR LOVED AMERICA?
AND WITH SPENDINGS ONTO WARS AND ALSO ONTO
DONATIONS TO RUSSIA WHO NOW COUNT MORE BILLIONAIRES THAN AMERICA? WE HAVE ALSO WATCHED AMERICA HELP THE YELLOWS WTIH CHINA AID FUNDING BY PAST PRESIDENT CARTER AT TIMES OF NEEDS? AND CHINA HAD GONE PARALLEL TO AMERICA TO MAKE: ONE TRILLION =
1000BILLIONAIRES FOR CHINA WITH NO WARS??
IF CHINA CAN HELP AVOID WARS, SO SHOULD OUR LOVED AMERICA HELP STOP WARS. WE HAD SEEN VIETNAM AND THE REST NOW IT IS TIME THAT
WE ALSO INTO AMERICA AND ALSO BUILDERS OF AMERICA OF ALL COLORS, SKINS, RACES AND NATIONALITIES NOW AMERICANS INTO AMERICA DO HELP STOP WARS WHICH ARE AGAINST OUR VERY HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND WE GOT TO ASK FOR OUR CONGRESSMAN/WOMAN TO PASS NEW INTERNATIONAL LAWS TO STOP WARS AS BEING VIOLATIONS AGAINST US, AGAINST OUR LIVE, AGAINST OUR VERY HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS. LET US DO THIS TOGETHER NOW. CONTACT YOUR GOVERNMENT TO TRULY COMPLAIN OF SPENDING TOO HUMONGOUSLY ONTO WARS TO TRILLIONS MORE?
WITH STILL NO TRILIONS FOR US AND
I A SENIOR CITIZEN OF 67 YEARS DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN US$10,000TOTAL AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BUILDER OF AMERICA????............
WHILE OUR LOVED AMERICA GIVE OUR 27BILIONS, WASTE OUR ONE TRILLION DOLLARSMORE ONTO WARS.
WARS HAVE ALREADY KILLED 100MILLIONS OF US.
SO LET US JOIN TOGETHER TO COMPLAIN STRONGLY ABOUT ALL SAID SPENDINGS AND WASTES OF OUR BILLIONS AND TRILLIONS NOW. CONTACT
http://www.whitehouse.gov
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov
and also the united nations,geneva, europe
to DEMAND NEW LAWS INTERNATIONAL AGAINST WARS IMMEDIATELY?? SINCE WARS WORK AGAINST US, OUR CHILDREN, GRAND CHILDREN AND ALSO SEE THE
VAIN REASONS FOR BIG WARS WHO HAD KILLE
MORE THAN 100MILLIONS OF US? LET US DO IT NOW.
EMAIL US ALSO ABOUT BANKS LOSSES.
ALL OUR BANKS, USA AND ALSO EUROPE, WORLDWIDE ARE PRODUCING ONLY LOSSES THUS DEFRAUDING US THE PUBLIC CLIENTS AND ALSO OUR GOVERNMENTS. SEE LOSSES FOR BANKS ON THE WEB. EMAIL US ALSO
GIVE US ONLY POSITIVE COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE SEEK PARTNERS ALL KINDS TO FORM NEW BUSINESS INTERNATIONAL NOW. SEND FOR OUR LIST OF PROJECTS.
WE SEEK FUNDING INVESTMENTS, LOANS AND OR DONATIONS. WE ARE ONLY INDIVIDUALS AT THIS TIME AND NO CHARITIES ORGANIZATION.
WE BELIEVE IN DOING IT OURSELVES. WE ARE READY TO BRING BACK TO CALIFORNIA, USA SMALL FARMINGS OF NON SICK ANIMALS SUCH AS LAMBS AND ALSO PIGS WHICH MAKE UP TO 15 PIGS ONE BIRTH TO PROVIDE FOODS FOR US/AMERICAN BUILDERS OF AMERICA STILL WITH NO BILLIONS FROM AMERICA FOR PAST 50YEARS. LET US REBEL AGAINST SUCH GOVERNMENTS ATTITUDES TOWARDS, MISTREATING US AND GIVING AND SPENDING SO MUCH WITHOUT CARES ABOUT US/AMERICA FIRST. LET US DO THIS AND ASK DEMAND LAWS BE PASSED IMMEDIATELY TO STOP WARS.
FOR BANKS, ASK US FOR MORE INFORMATION ALSO. BANKS SHOULD BE MAKING PROFITS. ALL SYSTEMS AND MODES OF BANKS OF THE PAST IS FRAUDULENT TO US. SEE THE RATES? THE MORTGAGE, THE FICTIOUS EQUITIES, THE STOCKS ON WALL STREETS CANNOT FEED US WITH PAPER MONEY? LET US DEMAND NOW A CHANGE FOR AMERICA WITH ME.
REMARK: REMEMBER DR MARTIN LUTHER KING AND ALSO
ROSA PARKS DID STAND FOR THEIR AND OUR HUMAN AND ALSO CIVIL RIGHTS FOR EQUALITIES INTO AMERICA. SO SHOULD WE STAND NOW TO COLLECT FRUITS OF OUR OWN FUNDINGS INTO BILLIONS AND OR TRILLIONS FIRST INTO AMERICA AS BEING THE TRUE BUILDER OF AMERICA AND NOT CONSTANTLY PASSING IT OUR TO OTHERS WHICH EVIDENTLY ARE MOSTLY WHITES AND OR YELLOWS SKINS?
WHILE OUR LOVED AFRICA STILL STAND THERE WITH 40MILLIONS STARVED AND STARVING STILL? LET US MAKE A CHANGE FOR AFRICA WHERE LAWS SHOULD ALSO CHANGE. ASK US WHY? CITIZENS AFRICANS DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN FUNDING, LIKE ME INTO AMERICA WHO DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN US$10,000TOTAL. BUT LET US ALL REMEMBER
OUR PRESIDENT REAGAN WAS WELL 79, RULING AMERICA AS A PRESIDENT? ELDERLIES SHOULD BE PAID MORE AT THEIR OLD AGES INTO LIFE AND NOT BEING DENIED THE RIGHT TO US$10,000TOTAL. LET US HELP CHANGE THESE LAWS AND LET US HELP PASS NEW LAWS INTO AMERICA FOR US, BUILDERS OF AMERICA, FOR OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN.
WE HAVE WATCHED SENIOR LADY WHITE INTO TV EATING LUXURY FOODS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN HUMAN FOODS?? WITH ONLY LAUGHTERS ON TV WHERE THEY HELP FEED DOGS AND CATS AND HELP PAY FOR FLEAS AND THICKS WELL OVER US$500BILLIONS FOR PAST YEARS. LET US ALSO HELP STOP DOGS FOODS AND DOGS CATS FACTORIES BY LAWS. DOGS AND CATS CAN LIVE ONTO LEFT OVERS. LET US STOP THE NEW SLAVERIES TO THE DOGS AND THE CATS INTO AMERICA. WILE US, OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN STARVE.
LET US ESTABLISH NEW INTERNATIONAL PROJECTS FOR USA TO HELP RECOVER SAID TRILLION? IF WE CAN CONTACT US NOW PLEASE.
WE ARE ALSO AGAINST DRUGS DEALINGS AND PORNOS WHERE THE DRUGS DEALERS WELL HAD ALREADY COLLECTED 24 BILLIONS FROM US AND WE HAD WATCHED THE KILLINGS OPERATED ONTO OUR STREETS OF LOS ANGELES WHERE OUR HOMELESS HAD NOT STOPPED GOING ON SAME STREETS INTO LOS ANGELES. LET US COME TO HELP TRULY AND MAKE HIGH DEMANDS FROM OUR GOVERNMENTS.
LET US HELP STOP WARS NOW. WE HAD SEEN VIETNAM AND THEY STILL TALK ABOUT NEW WARS FROM KOREA AND ALSO IRAN. LET US STAND UP NOW TO PROTECT OUR HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHTS INTO US AND LET US START IT INTO USA AS BUILDERS OF USA.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND US ANY NEGATIVE NOTHING.
LET US BUILD THIS WEB AND LET US TYPE MORE TRUE STORIES OF LIFE THAT SHOULD CHANGE.
LET US STOP LIVING WITH ONLY DREAMS INTO AMERICA. LET US PUT OUR FEETS TOGETHER INTO AMERICA WITH NO MORE WARS ONTO THE STREETS, WITH NO MORE FIGHTS AGAINST US BY US INTO AMERICA. LET US LIVE AND LET LIVE. LET US DEMAND A SHARE OF OUR BILLIONS AND OF OUR TRILLIONS INTO AMERICA SO OUR GOVERNMMENTS CAN STOP THESE GIVE AWAYS FOR FREE AND OR THESE WASTES BY WARS?
LET US ALSO REMEMBER THAT AMERICAN TV SHOWS WITH HORRORS AND ALSO TERRORS HAD CONTRIBUTED TO SEPTEMBER 11, NEW YORK BUT STILL THERE ARE MORE HORRORS AND MORE TERRORS ON TV SHOWS. LET THERE IT BE LAWS AGAINST DRUGS DEALINGS, AGAINST PORNOS ALSO WHICH COME TO CREATE MORE COHESIONS, MORE CHAOSES, MORE PAINS MOR TERORS AND HORRORS INTO OUR HEARTS. SEE THE DIVORCES. OUR PARENTS DID LIVE A LONGER, HAPPIER LIFE AND WITH MORE CHILDREN AND MORE PEACE THAN WE DID WITH ALL THESE DRUGS AND PORNOS IT HAD GONE TO: 40MILLIONS OF US INFECTED WITH VERNEREAL DISEASES AMERICA AND WORLDWIDE?
IT NOT IT ENOUGH? WHICH DISEASES CAUSING HEALTH CARE COSTS OF ANOTHR BILLIONS TO TRILLIONS AT OUR EXPENSES? LET US HELP PASS LAWS TO STOP DRUG DEALERS, EXCEPT MEDICATIONS,
ALL PORNOS DEALERS WHO DEALS PORNOS ONLY FOR MONEY, FOR POWER AND FOR FAME AND TO DECEIVE OTHERS AND ALSO TO HELP KILL OTHERS WITH DRUGS? SORRY WE HAVE TO SAY IT THE WAY IT IS AND I DO NOT NEED ANOTHER WARS. LET US ALL SUBMIT TO THE LAWS AND TO SANE AND CLEAN LIFE INTO USA FOR THE GOOD OF ALL OF US.
OUR PARENTS DID NOT KILL FOR MONEY, BUT THEY GOT MUCH MORE THAN WE DID WITH SANE MINDS, SANE HEARTS AND MORE CLEANLINESS.
LET US KEEP AWAY FROM THE FATAL BRAINZ TUMORS?? WHICH CAN LEAD TO DEATHS?
PLEASE CONTACT ME BY EMAIL ONLY IF YOU WANT TO.
JOIN ME FOR SONGS AND OR FOR PROJECTS INTO USA.
LET US BECOME FRIENDS, ASSOCIATES AND PARTNERS. LET US STOP THE HATES, THE PREJUDICES AND THE WHATEVER NOW TO HELP OUR LOVED AMERICA ALSO PROSPER WITH US/AMERICA FIRST. THANKS NOW.
AND MAY GOD BLESS US INTO USA.
LET US ALSO GO FARMINGS AND FISHINGS INSTEAD OF DRUGS DEALINGS AND ALSO FISHINGS LIKE THE JAPANESE WHO MAKE BILLIONS WTIH FISHES OF THE SEAS. DO NOT HATE BECAUSE I EMAIL YOU NOW.
GET TO APPRECIATE ME A LITTLE. THIS IS ALL AMERICA NEED A LITTLE MORE CARE FOR US ALL INTO AMERICA. THANKS AGAIN

maurice

Is this the "blacklash" from the gays who are still trying to compare their struggle to the Civil Rights movement of the '60's? Listen - The speech that Martin Luther King made wasn't "I Have to Ream"!

Monica Roberts

Her we go again with the latest defense of the Shirley Q Liquor minstrel show, 'free speech.'

As Justice Holmes observed, you do not have the right to yell 'Fire' in a crowded theater.

SQL is the equivalent of that. Not only is the show unfunny and taseless, it's insulting to me as a African-American transwoman.

joey

Have you ever seen Mind of Mencia? This show could not exist if he didnt make fun of gay people. But how come there is no uproar over this? I sometimes think that there is too much PC with all this protest.Just a week ago Joey Porter a black pittsburgh steeler football player called another player a fag. He was fined ten thousand after some protest. I think only gay people should be allowed to say the word fag, just like blacks should be the only people to use the "n" word. The real problem is education. Protest and censorship is never the answer.

j. brotherlove

You know... everyone is entitled to their opinion. The truth is, a lot of people are offended by Knipp's "comedy" and by refusing to acknowlege that it can be offensive is where it gets really offensive to me.

A part of what I wrote earlier today:

RuPaul took a gamble as a big supporter of Shirley Q. Liquor. Shirley is plastered all over Ru's Red Hot CD and is considered one of the reasons it flopped big time (well, that and the fact it wasn't very good). You'd think if Ru really wanted to make a comeback, she wouldn't piss off a majority of the black gays.

Still, I support free speech. If Knipp wants to prance around the stage making a damn fool of himself, he has every right. However, as a black man I will not tolerate such foolishness anywhere I call home. He can perform that crap at any clueless establishment bold enough to book him. But when it's a place or event I frequent; then I have a problem.

The rest is at:
http://www.thebrotherlove.com/journalogue/not_shirley_q_again.php

Cadence

North Dallas thirty, I hope you aren't saying that just because some of Knipp's friend are Black then his act is okay, because that is just beyond ignorant.

BTW, Knipp doesn't see his act as an exaggeration. As Jasmyne pointed out he actually believes that he is portraying an actual Black woman. On his website he said that he performs in African American make-up and uses African American language. If you can't see how much that claim alone shows what a piece of racist garbage he is, then I don't know what to say for you. I guess you are no better than he is.

Ms. Loi Wade

Jasmyne, you have the connections to appeal to people of influence. Please expose this fool to those who have an influence. Let them(oprah, ellen etc )know whats going on. Believe it or not, they might not know. That idiot came to sacramento to perform at 'faces', the premier sac area 'family' bar. I called Terry , the owner to let him know how I felt. He ignored me big time! We will never stop this parasite unless we bring out the big guns. And PLEASE let's stop supporting sell outs like rupaul who thinks this fools act is cute! You once talked about the panthers. As much as I disagree with their beliefs on male/female roles I must admit they had it right on when it came to dealing with whitey!

bargal20

Well, Yeahiseidit,

that's the best bit of spin since the fall of Saddam's statue in 2003.

It was bull, but pretty good.

Rupaul

Honey, white gay people aren't racist. They can't be they're minorities too. Mmmhmm, that's what my white boyfriend tells me and he wouldn't lie. He's with me because he loves me and sees past my color, and so do his white queen friends.

yeahisaidit

@bargal20...to answer your question...because the term Black is used, not only as a race, but also, as an ethnicity, (like Italian, Spanish, Russian etc), since there was no system to break down what country in Africa slaves came from and to then refer to their ethnicity as such, like there was for people from Europe...therefore Black is upper-cased...white, however, refers distinctly to race and is lower-cased, (except in cases of White power and White pride in the attempt to equate race with ethnicity in an anglo sense to try and make a point), again reference to anglo ethnicity is capitalized, English, French, German and so on...when discussing racism in the U.S. it's so irritating when people are so quick to find any technicality to be able to point out how EQUALLY racist African Americans are when compared to their anglo counterparts, (especially since Black culture is largely based upon race, it being the thing that excluded African Americans from the mainstream in the first place)...while there is unfortunately more than enough prejudice to go around from all sides i wish there was more willingness to understand more about the background of some situations before drawing certain conclusions...

bargal20

Ron Lee,

So you're claiming Jasmyne uses an upper-case "b" for "blacks" and a lower-case "w" for "whites" for reasons of black pride?

Sounds racist to me. In fact, it's a textbook exampler of racism.

Ron Lee,

So you're claiming Jasmyne uses an upper-case "b" for "blacks" and a lower-case "w" for "whites" for reasons of black pride?

Sounds racist to me. In fact, it's a textbook exampler of racism.

Ron Lee

This is for "just wandering"? If you were Black and grew up in the 70s you would always see the word "Black" printed in upper case letters; as part of the Black Pride Movement. I still do it;especially when speaking to other Blacks. Peace Out!

Ron Lee

We Black Folks should be tearing down prejudices within our own community gay&straight. Lets not be reactive and act on every negative thrown at us lets build with in our communities. Lets reach out to other Black Ethnics: Jamacian,Haitian,Cuban and others. Lets build bridges with the Asian & Arab Communities. If the whites have not a clues to the enemies they have soo be it. LETS MOVE ON. WE HAVE THE LAST LAUGH !

Riana

The Shirley Q Liquor thing is totally disgusting. The question is, do we give Mr. Knipp more publicity by protesting or ignore him and hope he goes away? On other stories I have read, his product sales go up 400-1500 percent when protests are publicized. In the month following a show that was cancelled in New York Mr. Knipp's sales were 15 times more than on a normal month, and sales were up for three months after that.

A very difficult choice for me.

Riana

bargal20

Jasmyne,you wrote:
"...this is the last thing that Blacks, gay, whites and anyone else needs."

Why do you upper-case "blacks" but lower-case "whites"?

Just wondering...

Ty

good post, comes as no surprise to me, he is just doing and saying what 99% of the gay white men and women in the usa feel. they are worse than the gop when it comes to blacks. let him have his laugh with the losers who agree with him. nothing is going to stop hi/it from doing it. as for rupaul, all he knows is getting those coins no matter who they come from. i recall him a club in la, getting coins off the stage, so, he has no credibility either, just a played out and broke it appears since he needs a second rate drag queen in his act. and rupaul has never really even said anything about being gay, his life is one of those so called "color blind" one. all this said, i wonder if ANY of the white gays who are always harping about "civil rights" and equality are going to join efforts to stop the show? i won't hold my breath, since like this boob, they still have white privilege and can say what they feel, and yet demand everyone feel their pain of being gay and discriminated against, yeah right.

Darkrose

Someone on Pam's blog brought up Margaret Cho and her routines about her mother. I happen to love those, because it's clear that she loves her mother, and that she's speaking with affection. I don't get that feeling with Knipp--I feel like he has no respect for black women. I don't find that funny in the least.

North Dallas Thirty

Now that you know, what are you going to do about it?

Post links to Jane Hamsher's (http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005657.htm) and Steve Gilliard's (http:// http://www.exposetheleft.com/2005/10/27/kaineracistpost/) deliberate use of blackface in an attempt to smear and harm BOTH black and white individuals, and wait for your posts denouncing both.

If I knew your address, I'd send you copies of Chris Rock's and Dave Chappelle's comedy routines, as well as a DVD of the movie White Chicks, and wait for you to start protesting their shows as well.

By the way, even though there are numerous times in the mentioned comedy routines and movie in which white people are stereotyped and portrayed in a negative fashion, I find those to be hilarious.

That's because, like Shirley Q. Liquor, these are exaggerated to the point of ridiculousness; while they are based on racial stereotypes, they go so over-the-top that they become uproarious. It's a stereotype that white people can't dance; however, the white people portrayed in those movies aren't just bad dancers, they're REALLY bad dancers, and that's at what we are truly laughing. It takes a stereotype and blows it up into something funny, just like Spike Lee did with Bamboozled (which, incidentally, I thought was a great movie).

In short, Jasmyn, I really enjoy Shirley Q. Liquor; I also think she bears as much resemblance to real black women like you and Pam Spaulding as I do to Jack McFarland -- and that is after close to a decade of owning a very nice collection of her CDs. Trust me; I can tell the difference between her act and real life, thank you.

Incidentally, are you also aware that Knipp is gay -- which is no doubt why he and RuPaul are good friends?

nOva

While I don't find Shirly Q. Liquor laugh-out-loud funny, what continues to amaze me is how every 5 years it's "revealed" that she's a white man doing blackface drag and there's an uproar for about 2 weeks. Then it repeats itself.

I, personally, don't feel one way or the other about it. It is what it is and I think black people need to be more self-aware before they start complaining about shit like this.

I think we got the game mixed up.

Instead of always having these loud, emotional, knee-jerk reactions to this shit, why can't we use our minds to fight larger battles? Blacks been arguing with EACH OTHER about the n-word over the past few weeks and white folk probably sitting back laughing they heads off because we've turned the attention AWAY from white racism. We always bitching about stuff, typically little shit. We need to stop trying to police everything and look inward.

Nyah Molineaux

Jasmyne, do you think that the reason why this comedian is going to be on Logo, and at the same time Noah's Arc has not been ye renewed for another season is a sign of this network feelings towards black people?

Noah's Arc was becoming more multifaceted throughout the years. I guess Logo likes to see blacks being primiscous and having the sterotypical roles. However, in the second season when the characters were going into more committed relationships, it seems like the network did not like it.

I will tell you that if they allow this fool to come on Logo and not Noah's Arc next season I will not be watching Logo.

konagod

I have only watched the clip on this blog (which I found over at Pam's). To each his own I guess. I didn't find it the least bit funny. And I'm not into the double standard argument. I've seen plenty of comedians -- regardless of race -- who can delivery hilarious routines making fun of one race or another, but in a way that ultimately conveys respect -- we have to have a sense of humor about everything, including race, but something about this was just off the mark. And blackface certainly contributed nothing.

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